The Brotherwise Dispatch caught up with Daryle Lamont Jenkins, who represents a new era in freedom fighting as the official spokesman for the influential anti-racist organization One People’s Project (www.onepeoplesproject.com), at
Brotherwise Dispatch- I’m here with an ally and friend, if you could introduce yourself sir please?
Daryle Lamont Jenkins- My name is Daryle Lamont Jenkins, I am the spokesperson for One People’s Project and . . .
BD- Could you explain exactly what that is, One People’s Project?
DLJ– Yeah it’s an anti-racist organization that was formed July 4th 2000, out of the ashes of an anti-racist rally, basically, where as we say on the website, an online resource for those on the frontline fighting fascism, especially those who don’t play nice.
(joint laughter)
BD – Nice . . . nice, nice, so what do you mean by not playing nice, like what differentiates your organization from say, some other anti-racist organizations? Even though in general, I think there aren’t too many still around these days.
DLJ – Well there’s quite a few anti-racist organizations out there but a lot of times you see them kind of at their wits end with trying to do stuff. I think it was with us, and I would say this about a lot of the progressive organizations, it was about trying to find a way to force some hands out there. So what we do, we actually get inside a lot of these Right wing and racist organizations I mean . . .
BD – You mean infiltration when you say get inside?
DLJ – Infiltration, whatever it takes, just whatever we can do to learn and gather any and all information on them and we’re not just talking about the groups. We actually try to put a face on those we have a problem with. We go after the individuals themselves and we go after them pretty aggressively, we just don’t talk trash about ‘em on the web site . .
BD – Ok
DLJ – we get their names, addresses, phone numbers, occupations, pet’s names, blood type . . .
BD – So that’s what you mean when you say put a face on ‘em.
DLJ – Yup, put a face on ‘em and put all of that information on blast and let everybody else . . .
BD – so you’re about exposure, you’re trying to really expose these people for who they are . . .
DLJ – Absolutely, absolutely. I think a lot of times people don’t even realize who it is they’re fightin’, and what it is that they’re fightin’ and we try too basically connect some dots that they didn’t even know that were there.
BD – True, true, that makes sense.
brief interruption after which the interview resumes
BD – But basically, we were kind of discussing, you were talking about tactics, can we get back into that as far as tactics and exposure and how you really put some of these people on blast so to speak?
DLJ – Ok, a couple of years back there was an anti-abortion activist named Neil Horsley who started a web site called the Christian Gallery in which he provided the names and addresses of abortion providers . . .
BD – OK
DLJ – and when somebody got killed off that site - Bernard Slepian - off that information, he crossed the name out. A lot of people who were on that site with their names and addresses basically filed suit against him and other anti-abortion activists. But the courts ruled in the favor of Neil Horsley, saying that it is freedom of speech and he has the right to put out this information if he so desires, it is in fact public information. Now freedom of speech is something that a lot of these folks try to hide behind, it doesn’t matter whether or not they are right or wrong, the fact is they are allowed to say whatever it is they want to say. That’s fine, but they use that freedom of speech line to shut everybody up. My attitude when Neil Horsley won that, was that, that was a copout that just went a little bit too far, so I said alright screw it . . .
BD – (chuckles)
DLJ – what we’re going to do is the same damn thing only to them.
BD – yeah (still chuckling)
DLJ – So we started gathering all kinds of information on the Right and the racists out there and we just put ‘em on blast and it has really been pretty effective. I think that we have gotten people fired from their jobs, we got people kicked out of the military, some go to jail . . .
BD- That’s what I was about to say, what have been some of the consequences from some of the exposure you guys have given these racist fascists?
DLJ – Well, I’ll give you an example of one case. There’s a guy named Roger Williams and this is something that we mention on our postcard that we pass out. This guy named Roger Williams who is the deputy . . . no, no I’m sorry, the national regional coordinator of a white supremacist group called National Alliance. Give you an idea of how bad National Alliance is, the guy who founded National Alliance wrote the Turner Diaries which everybody says was the blueprint to the Oklahoma City Bombing.
BD – wow, ok
DLJ – Now with that, National Alliance got a lot of notoriety and a huge membership behind it, and you’re talking about college professors, you’re talking about cops . . .
BD – So you’re not just talking about fringe, cause it seems to be that view that a lot of these white supremacist organizations are on the fringe.
DLJ – Well see that’s the thing. Our main mission has always been, we wanted to connect that fringe with the elements that we’ve been fighting in the mainstream and we’ve done that pretty effectively. Roger Williams, when we done our research on him, found out that he was working as a market analyst for Halle Burton . . .
BD – wow
DLJ – and when we put that information out he got booted, he got booted and he was there for years . . .
BD – interesting, interesting
DLJ – It’s that kind of information that we put out there. Another example I’ll give you that’s even real on point. There’s a white supremacist that has or had an internet radio show by the name of Hal Turner. Now he’s being recently going around the airwaves on this like virtual press junket, talking about that there are certain judges targeted for murder. Now they said that was freedom of speech, OK that’s fine, but I digress. We can talk about that later on, but we found out, we didn’t find out, we’ve known ever since we heard of him, that he was friends with Sean Hannity and he told us this.
BD – This is Sean Hannity from the FOX NEWS SHOW - Hannity & Colmes.
DLJ – Yes indeed and also has his Radio Show on WABC on 77 WABC radio, I mean it was something that he himself put out there . . .
BD – So you’re connecting a sort of fringe white supremacist fringe with a mainstream that aren’t really known as white supremacists but their in bed together.
DLJ – Exactly
BD – And there’s a connection and they kinda looking at, it sounds, it appears you’re exposing the fact that they have each others backs so to speak.
DLJ – Absolutely, when you think about the fact that you have over 30 elected officials from the South that are members of this group called the Council of Conservative Citizens, another white supremacist organization.
BD – Ok, could you explain what this Council of Conservative Citizens is?
DLJ – Council of Conservative Citizens is a group that was formed out of the white citizens councils back in the ‘60s, it’s pretty much the same people . . .
BD - just a new name, same game
DLJ – just a new name and they basically promote anti-immigration, they promote neo-confederacy, they promote eugenics, believing that African Americans or Black people in general are intellectually inferior to whites. And they have their juice too, like I said, over 30 elected officials up and down the South are members of this group. That includes Trent Lott, that includes the last governor of Tennessee, the commissioner, former commissioner of Agriculture in South Carolina and that’s important to all you black farmers out there, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on. And when you think about that and you think about all the problems that we’ve had racially and the fact that these guys are in power and steering things, then you know what you have to do.
BD – So basically you’re taking an invisible hand and making it seen.
DLJ – Indeed, indeed
(laughter)
BD – Like there’s no more invisible hands, they can do what they have to do but there may be consequences and repercussions.
(more laughter)
DLJ – Yeah, see that’s the other problem. There hasn’t been, there needs to be some consequences. The only reason why I think that there hasn’t been, is because a lot of us are asleep. Well wake the F*ck up! Because if you don’t do anything, then they’re going to continue to cause damage to you and yours. I’m not one of those people that likes to just sit around and watch things happen to
BD – So you’re providing a valuable service through the media, the internet media and its onepeoplesproject.org . . .
DLJ – NO, NO, NO, NO, No, I’m glad you said that, I’m glad you said that . . .
BD – ooh, break that down, break that down for me.
DLJ – it is www.onepeoplesproject.com , if you go to onepeoplesproject.org you will find out that the aforementioned National Alliance has registered that domain name and it will go straight to their site . . .
(laughter)
DLJ – and do not go to onepeoplesproject.net either!
BD – So they’re very aware of you then?
DLJ – Oh they don’t like me. If you go on any of the white supremacist web sites and type in a search for www.onepeoplesproject.com, you’ll see a whole bunch of bad things said about me, about the organization. We have done some damage to them, we have done some mad damage to them and I think that a lot of your folks on the Right, in the mainstream Right I’m referring to, are particularly concerned because we are . . .
BD – they’re getting exposed
DLJ – Not just getting exposed, but we’re doing it with a level head. A lot of times when you’re dealing with, not just progressive politics but with activist politics in general you’re dealing with a lot of folks that have a lot of emotion behind what they do. And I’m not going to lie, I have my . . .
BD – yeah there’s a certain, you have a passion about what you do . . .
DLJ – Yes I have my passions but I’m also focused. It used to be a time when if you said the “N” word to me that would probably be your last words . . .
(laughter)
DLJ – I have been called the “N” word so much in like the past five years, I think I have developed a thick skin about it. And my attitude has always been I’m not going to get you now, in time I’ll have you and sure enough that’s the way it’s been.
BD – Nice, nice, that’s very important, so once again repeat the actual address, the web address for the . . .
DLJ – yes its www.onepeoplesproject.com as in commie, I’m not a commie, I’m an anarchist . . .
(more laughter)
. . . but that’s where you can find me and you can find our organization and believe me, you’ll have a lot of information you can work with. You probably already heard of us if you was googlin’ some Right wingers name and our site came up.
BD – So it’s definitely a popular site, you guys get a lot of hits, well it must be if they were coming after you already . . .
DLJ – They’ve been coming after me for a long time and they have yet to touch me with the exception of what happened last week . . .
BD – What happened last week?
DLJ – There was a show, an anti-racist show that some other people were organizing. They were doing it to benefit both my organization and Anti-Racist Action, which is another anti-racist organization around here. Klan, Neo-Nazis a couple of other idiots out there hit the firehouse. Basically phone jammed the firehouse that it was supposed to be at and they in effect shut down the show temporarily. We are going to have the show again.
BD – Yeah, I was about to say, what do you mean hit the firehouse? Can you explain that?
DLJ – Well, they basically called up the firehouse and told them that if the show went on they was gonna be outside, and the firehouse officials were basically down with us, but the problem was that they had to consider . . .
BD – the safety concerns
DLJ – the safety concerns and their mission I mean right now
(laughter)
BD – OK, Joe Bednarsky watch your back baby!!
(more laughter)
DLJ – All I got to say, he will be got, legally, but he will be got!
BD – No doubt, no doubt, legally, intellectually . . .
DLJ – yes indeed!
BD – Drop the media bomb on ‘em! Alright, well definitely once again, if you can sign off? Let everybody know who you are, what you representin’ and any last thoughts for our readers at the Brotherwise Dispatch?
DLJ – Alright once again, my name is Daryle Lamont Jenkins from One People’s Project. We’re always lookin’ for heads who want to help us out and write about whatever’s going on in your neighborhood or research and gather information. If you can, just hit us up on the website you can reach us also by phone 212-479-7362 and I hope to hear from y’all soon thanks much.
BD – No doubt, I’m signing off, this is A.Shahid Stover with the Brotherwise Dispatch. Peace, God is One.
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